$36,000,000,000 profit for Exxon. Hope they’re happy. Here’s the facts. No more denial bullshit from anyone. Might as well stick a gun to your own head.

Comments (18 comments)

a / February 2nd, 2007, 11:36 am / #1

Natural selection. :)

BlackSun / February 2nd, 2007, 1:36 pm / #2

C’mon a, you’re not serious. If it was ‘natural’ there’d be no reason to weep. We’re next if this keeps up.

BlackSun / February 2nd, 2007, 8:02 pm / #3

OK, OK, it’s funny. LOL. I’d rather laugh than cry. But there are so many morons who are denying this, and we’re all going to be crying soon if we don’t turn it around.

A polar bear can swim a hundred miles. But it takes a lot of energy. Lately they’ve been measuring that the bears are getting thinner, losing capacity as they hunt further and further for food.

Losing polar bears is sad. But as a harbinger for the human race, this is a warning of a calamity of unparalleled proportions.

a / February 2nd, 2007, 7:54 pm / #4

I was just trying to bring some humor to your blog.

It is a little sad…I’m pretty sure those guys can swim though.

doris tracey / February 3rd, 2007, 4:22 am / #5


It might be more than fossil fuel thats creating the glogal warming and where do we get the finances to turn this situation around? I’m afraid we’ve gone too far with selfishness and greed on planet earth. We’re all responsible for this planet as care takers, but we blew it and now we have to face the consequences. The only way for this planet to return to her natural state is to simply stop polluting it and that process will take centuries to restore. Since the Government enjoys pappering money we do not have [Counterfeit]and because we are the largest debtors in the world, maybe they could paper more money for us to stop polluting this earth. Each one of us I’m afraid is going to have to take accountability and become more educated and aware of the multitude of problems we have to solve on this precious earth, she has suffered so much!

BlackSun / February 3rd, 2007, 10:20 am / #6

Hey E-P, thanks for stopping by! Always love your work.

Engineer-Poet / February 3rd, 2007, 9:46 am / #7

Oh, no. There are definitely things we can do to fix the problems we’ve created (even though it would probably take a century or so). Don’t we owe nature a hand? I wrote up my concept here:

doris tracey / February 3rd, 2007, 11:29 am / #8

Hi E-P

I know there are things we can do, but people have to have their prioritys straight and realize it can be done. We have to stop polluting this planet and that will take education and for some a willingness to learn and act.

Christopher / February 3rd, 2007, 11:29 pm / #9

Also, for those who didn’t watch An Inconvenient Truth, polar bears are drowning because they can’t get to the strong ice to rest.

This is on us, this is bullshit and it makes me want to give money like made to the ALF and ELF.

Engineer-Poet / February 4th, 2007, 9:57 am / #10

Priorities, Doris… and part of that is making the solutions palatable. If people feel that the cure is worse than the disease, they’re likely to sacrifice the future for the present.

I think we could use a national war footing, against the oil producers. If people have an enemy, they are more likely to work toward a goal than if the only consideration is comfort.

doris tracey / February 5th, 2007, 6:14 pm / #11

Thank you Mr Engineer-Poet for responding to my Post and thank you for correcting my priorities. It didn’t look right after I wrote it, but I let it go. How do we start this national war footing,against the oil producers anyway? I’m going to ask,what can I do for my country? Is this war footing like a boycot?

BlackSun / February 5th, 2007, 9:55 pm / #12

E-P, I agree. There has to be leadership on carbon taxes, and eliminating oil subsidies. But consumers can do their part–namely by reducing their non-renewable energy usage and offsetting the rest with a company like (or others which sell carbon offsets to consumers).

This is just a first step. Then I want to see your biomass liquid fuel/charcoal/electric car strategy implemented. Might take 10-15 years if we started now, but damn that’s a good proposal!

Engineer-Poet / February 6th, 2007, 6:17 am / #13

Other people are doing all the actual work at this point (rumor is Toyota is making a PHEV Prius soon), I’m just trying to draw a picture of how it all fits together.

As for the national war footing, Doris… just call the House of Saud what it is, our #1 source of terrorist ideology? Red America is primed and ready to jump on this with both feet (always looking for a manifestation of you know what).

Amy LaBelle / February 6th, 2007, 5:51 pm / #14

How about a boycott to shake up the energy industry?

Engineer-Poet / February 7th, 2007, 5:36 am / #15

I’d love to see a boycott. How do you propose to do it? Getting your house off natural gas requires quite a bit of remodeling for passive solar or wood or something, and there’s a distinct dearth of vehicles which don’t leave you dependent on oil.

Amy LaBelle / February 8th, 2007, 5:38 pm / #16


I’m not sure that there is a way to organize something national….it would raise eyebrows and put the organizer(s)on someone’s shit list. Boycotting is a tool that gives the average consumer power…and “they” don’t want us to realize just how much power we could have.

We are all capable of making the smallest effort to reduce energy expenditure….and with miminal pain. How about a national “gas off” day? Those who are interested could avoid gas purchases on Fridays….anything that immpacts profits will get attention.

I’m conducting an observational study and looking at the relationship between gas consumption and consumer behavior…..and I have found some interesting correlations. Whether it means something significant is another issue.

There are solutions…we just need to have an open discussion that includes a larger portion of the population. What happened to the 1960’s – ’70’s idealists/environmentalists? Are they driving the new breed of American car that is designed to massage the ego?


Engineer-Poet / February 17th, 2007, 4:07 pm / #17

Not buying gas on Fridays just means you’ll buy gas some other day.  You have to have people not drive on Fridays (not use any fuel) to make a difference.

I’m not an average American.  When I was car-shopping in early 2004, I wanted something that burned a lot less fuel than either of my old cars (both of which I wanted to get rid of).  I could not even find a Prius to sit in, they were coming in on trucks and leaving the dealer the same day.  I wound up buying a diesel which cut my fuel requirements by about 1/3.  It was the best I could get that fit me at the time.

All my efforts are overwhelmed by the jerks who bought large 4×4 pickups, speed and gun their engines to get ahead of me for the next light.  What we really need is a high enough gas tax to change their behavior.

BlackSun / February 19th, 2007, 8:40 pm / #18

E=P, definitely second that motion. Not sure whether it should be a carbon tax or a gas tax. I know you’ve talked about fee-bates before and that seems like the easiest way to go.

The libertarian in me doesn’t trust the government not to see this tax as a new revenue stream. So I kind of lean toward a commercially purchased (on the climate exchange or whatever) but federally mandated carbon offset.

Now we need to price carbon emissions properly. Right now, a lot of companies selling RECs to consumers are pricing them at $6-12 per ton. I read somewhere that the true cost of carbon sequestration or capture is around $30 per ton. And I don’t even know if that figure would scale to gigatons of carbon removal.

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