Indignation Drives the Doomer Religion
Here’s another in my series debunking the doomers of ‘peak oil.’ This particular comment, posted over at Peak Oil Debunked post #299, was in response to an anonymous poster named jev.
Like others, jev is actually most concerned about global inequality, not survival. So he invents scenarios where wealthy consumers will be punished through calamities and shortages.
Recently, commenter David Mathews, who claims to believe in god(!) made it clear on this blog that he considers humans to be the enemy of nature. Obviously, as I pointed out, humans are a product and part of nature. Also blatantly obvious: If god is the creator, humans are part of creation, and therefore part of ‘god’s plan.’ But regardless of this clear contradiction, Matthews still relishes the idea of human extinction, where fossilized humans relinquish the earth to animals. This is his idea of recompense for "All the plants and animals [having been] killed on behalf of humankind’s greed for inanimate possessions." I’ll be summarizing and condensing those comments into a future post. Let’s just say, I’m continually amazed at the depths of intellectual depravity I see expressed by those who espouse belief in god and claim to have a social conscience.
jev, like most if not all doomers, you’ve given up any hope that things can get better in the world. I’ve spent way too much time already arguing with your type. Why don’t you go hang out over at Deconsumption, LATOC, Kunstlerfuck, or other places where they serve the die-anide laced kool-aid?
You’re rather happy about there being no famine, no pestilence on your doorstep. Good for you: you were born in the right place at the right time, like me. You don’t know how lucky you are.
Yeah right. It’s hardly luck. We are benefiting from the actions of our ancestors who were smart enough to actually develop this world and deal with things like starvation, infant mortality, and preventable disease.
Your tired attacks on all manner of professionals who are openly and honestly trying to debate and formulate a plan of action of sorts
What plan of action? Wealth redistribution by force?? Forced relinquishment of northern hemisphere living standards? You whine and wail about the inequality. Grow the fuck up. Would you rather the ENTIRE world be starving instead of a billion people? In essence, that’s another BIG part of the doomer religion–righteous indignation over human injustice: "Waaa. We haven’t been fair to the impoverished masses, so we should all suffer–especially those who’ve benefited the most."
It’s simply Marxist rhetoric about class struggle dressed up in new clothes.
Preparing to implement death by decree due to failure of human imagination is nothing if not a finger in the eye of every creative and productive individual who’s ever lived.
[NOTE: the post discussed Richard Heinberg’s intellectual support of William Stanton’s call for forcible population reduction, documented here.]
jev, what you are really saying is equal opportunity death is better than living under inequality. Careful, you live in a rich country–it may be your own demise you’re planning.
working at ways to lift up not just urban dandies like yourself, but a larger, broader part of the global community.
Brilliant. How do you expect to lift them up without sustainable and cheap energy? And if so, doesn’t that also mean that the rest of the world isn’t doomed?? Technology must be allowed to do its work. This can only happen without destroying the environment, by making capitalism sustainable through market pricing of externalities.
Whether governments decide to mandate this (such as enacting a widespread carbon tax), and how soon, will have a great deal to do with the depth and severity of any economic crisis or climate backlash we experience. But people will never stop eating, fucking, making war, or consuming.
And here’s comes the fire and brimstone as a result. Doomers always hang themselves with their own rhetoric:
May chaos punish you to the extent that you did nothing to prevent it.
That sounds to me suspiciously like a curse or a prayer. All hail the church of doom….
What will happen to the world will happen because of millions of tiny individual decisions. jev, people want to live, and they want to prosper–and they’re very good at it: put that in your crystal ball.