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at a stamp shop I’d guess? You can get stamps made with whatever you want on them.
I think this is funny and clever; however, is defacing currency a crime in America? Here in Australia it is:
Extract from Crimes (Currency) Act 1981
Defacing or destroying current coins or current paper money
16. A person shall not, without the consent, in writing, of an authorised person, wilfully deface, disfigure, mutilate or destroy any coin or paper money that is lawfully current in Australia.
Penalty:
(a) in the case of a person, not being a body corporate - $5,000 or imprisonment for 2 years, or both; or
(b) in the case of a person, being a body corporate - $10,000.
It’s a good idea, but not worth going to gaol/jail for.
Thanks–yeah I figured I could have it custom made. I just wondered if someone was selling them on the web that I hadn’t heard about.
As far as defacing currency? Yes it’s technically a crime, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone being arrested for it. After all, unless they saw you stamping the bills, there would be no proof that the defacing didn’t come from someone else.
After all, putting “god” on the money is a constitutional violation in the first place.
In about 1980 at a conference in Brighton, UK for GLBT politics we asked everyone to have their currency stamped with a pink triangle and to use cash instead of credit cards.
By the end of the long weekend almost 90% of the currency in town had been stamped.
That made people think.
It can be a very powerful tool to remind people of the financial aspects of your politics.
It’s been said — but I won’t swear — that “defacing” requires doing more than just making little marks on a bill; that it requires making the bill un-reissuable (perhaps by covering or removing the bill’s number) . This seems to be correct, when I read the U.S. Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 17, Section 333.
(Do it. C’mon. No one cares. You’ll totally get away with it.)
Unfortunately, I doubt the people who really need to get informed on this issue won’t get past the ‘in Allah’ line before deciding that whoever did it is a terrorist Muslim.
Generally, I go after this issue from a historical perspective, pointing out that the phrase wasn’t on our money previously and claiming that I want a return to the way it used to be. 100% true, and it doesn’t take an angle of attack that will be dismissed without thinking.
With a few exceptions, history is a big thing to conservatives, who form the big speedbump here, and convincing them that if it was good enough for our founding fathers is at least somewhat successful. Even if they’re too uninformed to know our founding fathers weren’t anywhere close to their brand of religiousity.
Perfect - just perfect. God is not Great. I am just finishing Hitchens book and it is wonderful. I haven’t felt this good since speed queens were washers. You know - way back in the olden days when Hillary was a Marine door gunner in Viet Nam?
I carry a sharpie at all times. If I can’t think of a reasonably clever edit I just run a thick line through the whole god/trust bit. It goes over big in AA meetings!
[...] After posting about keeping all gods off money (previous article), I was starting to wonder what would be on the ideal currency. I was thinking it should be fun, pleasing to the eye, and totally offensive to both modern prudes and medievally inclined spirit-worshipers. Then I got these gorgeous designs forwarded in an email. [...]
Not trying to be hugely offensive, but there is a reason that Allah works much better than Xenu. Allah is like the rival football team for Christians. Christians don’t really feel threatened by Xenu or Zeus. Or even Buddha. But Allah, now there is a name that stirs up some feelings in most warm blooded Americans that can only be compared to seeing your worst enemy get a promotion.
So, instead of this, I’ve been crossing out “God” on all my bills and writing “humanity” or “humankind”. Seems a more optimistic (and realistic) thing to give your trust.
The “In god we trust” slogan was added to bills to keep other nations from calling the US secular and godless. Its a meaningless token, the worst thats come from it is idiots using it as “lolol 100% proof” that the US is for christians. Shouldn’t we be fighting other battles and let the religious folk have this little phrase? It makes them happy.
It seems to me that in FASCISM we trust would be more appropriate !
we do live in a fascist society, or is it a fascist theocracy i keep forgetting
LONG LIVE the CORPORATE OVERLORDS.
It’s a nice thought, misguided as it is. Allah and God are one in the same, it is simply two names for the same being. God is our English word and Allah is Islamic. Why do most believe that an acknowledgment of religion is the same as establishing a church? The point is clear, religion should not be the basis of government, that’s a good point.
It needs to come off. The sooner, the better. Religion needs to be separated from government as much as possible. The sooner, the better. I’m in favor of anything that wakes people up. _________, __________.
Jay, islamic isn’t a language… Allah is Arabic for God. Terry: America is nowhere near a fascist theocracy. Compare modern America to Nazi Germany. Everything is different.
United States currency and coinage are governed by federal law through the U.S. Treasury Department. Generally, it is illegal to fraudulently deface, mutilate, impair, diminish, falsify, scales or lightens any coins minted or “coined” in the United States or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in use or circulation as money within the U.S. (18 U.S.C. 331)
It is also a crime to fraudulently possess, pass, publish, sell or attempt to possess, pass, publish, sell or bring into the U.S. any such coin with knowledge that the coin has been altered, mutilated, defaced, etc. (18 U.S.C. 331)
Defacing currency with the intent to alter the bill to gain a benefit is illegal. If someone alters a written instrument (such as a check) without permission and with the intent to gain a benefit, then it is called forgery, which is a crime. If one tried to alter a cash bill (like changing a $5 bill to a $20 bill) for the purpose of presenting the altered bill to gain a benefit, then that could be considered a forgery. Forgery of United States Currency in this manner is called counterfeiting and carries with it very stiff penalties.
Amen A. Sigala / August 17th, 2008, 12:29 am / #30
No, GOD is a HE - ALLAH is suppose to be a sexless deity , not to be comprehendable to our human minds to understand what thats suppose to mean, so my Muslim friends tell me - psychologicly in characteristics they are NOT THE SAME - the Christian/Judeo God doesn’t promote multiple wives, anymore that is - and the history of the word God is not a correct translation to the pluralisaton of the word it replaced which is ELOHIM - it’s found in Genises the statement We were created in their image, THOSE OF U WHO WILL BE WRITING IN THAT IT’S SUPPOSE TO BE THE TRINITY DON’T WAIST MY TIME NOTHINGS FEMALE IN THE TRINITY!!!
AND this country is only what it is because those who faught n died for TRUTH, made it free-er!!Other wise it could have fallen in the hands of the facists! Hi fives to Malcom X and Martin L. King, despite their religous following, they cared!!! They loved!!
These United States continue to use the Bible in court rooms, that is in abosolute violation in favoring a organised religion, a multifarious one!!!
So atheist’s SHOULD BE BOTHERED that the word God and the Bible continue to be found in use in this govermental establishment!!!
Nazis went for the Jews, then the Poleish, then Christians….WE THE PEOPLE IN ORDER TO FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION is establishing that balance/compromise in reflect of those words and NOT FAVORING ANY ONE RELIGION so we of various beleifs can BE RESPECTED! ! !
VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTiTUTION SHOULD NEVER BE TOLERATED!!
I DON’T BELIEVE THE TRUE FREEMASONS WHO SIGNED AND FOUGHT FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD STAND BY NOT BOTHERED BY ALL THESE VIOLATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen ; .)
My name challenges christian theology for being connected to the polyheism in Egyption Mythology-I was named after the God of life not The Amen of the True n Holy Bk!!!!!!!! __
NOT A TRUE N HOLY BK BUT A MANIPULISED FORCE FOR POLITICAL REASONS THRU HISTORY!!
NO ONE SHOULD TOLERATE SUCH LIES - EVER !!!
Amen A. Sigala / August 17th, 2008, 12:38 am / #31
And COOL AWESOME AND PERFECT COINCIDENTAL FIND, this $BILL, finding it’s way to a perfect useful destiny!!
Still have it?
IN LOVE I TRUST
BUT if they insist on keeping God on the $ bill scratching out the T is good too ;o)
Any one got the time to do a couple hundred thousand?
I’d love to see the media response if it was done!!!
Someone would definatly react n call the local news station!!!
Careful what you post online, im not sure exactly what the laws are but i would distort this image somewhat if i were you just cause this may get you in trouble with counterfeiting.
Change it to “the flying spaggehti monster” or the “invisible pink unicorn”, this shows immediately that it was an atheist who did it. plus, you’ll almost certainly get approaval from the religion to do so.
oh, and actually, it’s not illegal to do that, I don’t think so. I actually looked it up, and I’m pretty sure it’s only illegal to defile a bill in a way that won’t let you see any valuable iinformation… so I’m saying you can cross out george washington’s eyes, but you can’t cross out te serial number or the signature on the bill. I’m pretty sure.
I completely agree with keeping God off money but the real reason I am replying to this post is because I’m not sure if you’re aware that it is totally illegal to scan or make any copies of U.S. money. I’m not being mean I’m just saying please be careful.
Reverend Davidius / November 10th, 2008, 2:03 am / #36
In regards to the legality questions up top, it is only a crime in America if it is done with fraudulent intent.
I just scribble out “God” from all of my bills with a pen
Saves me trying to find a stamp.
Gets my point across.
A cashier at a supermarket took a $20 of mine and saw the black ink on the back of my bill and stared at it for a second and just grimaced at it. She didn’t say anything, but I wish she asked me if I did it. I’d have totally laughed and said yes, and then asked if I could scribble all the God’s off of the bills in her drawer.
I love irritating the religious.
Scelza, I roared laughing! I too like doing test’s like this! Seeing people or even animals reactions are priceless & educational. I learn so much from people’s reactions.
A friend of mine farted at his friend’s dog, ok?! and he said the dog reacted as if saying “What was that for?!” My friend is in his early 30’s & goofy with his sense of humor.
P.S. Sean hope my &, in my name is ok? I do want readers to know who Happy&Free was. Didn’t intensionally violate any rules. Also, didn’t find any spell chk on top of the comment box.
Thk u.
Hi i am a American who doesn’t believe in God… I think I will come here and complain about the “in god we trust” on the bill… Really people do you honestly think that whining or defacing bills or anything of the such is gonna change anything. If you do not believe in a “God” then that is your choice, but America has chosen to put “in god we trust” on our money. Stop living life worrying about little pointless things that makes no difference when there are tons of way bigger problems in this world. Thank you for your time.
Stop living life worrying about little pointless things
Saying something is “pointless” is just another way to sidestep the issue. A way of expressing disagreement without having to deal with the actual question. The formal description of this fallacy would fall under “taboos” or “There is no alternative”
A very common contemporary extension of the either/or fallacy, quashing critical thought by announcing that there is no realistic alternative to a given standpoint, status or action, ruling any and all other options irrelevant, or announcing that a decision has been made and any further discussion is simply a waste of time…
Those of us commenting aren't worring, we are commenting how we feel about seeing this on our $ bill on a daily bases. That's all folks. And yes there are more serious things going on out there that we should be paying more attention too. Absolutly and totaly agree!!!! So don't come back here wasting your time, go out there and take care of all those things that are more important!! Okay? Okay. Bye Bye
Anders Svenneby / October 21st, 2009, 9:10 pm / #43
"Allah" is just the Arabic word for "God", so I don't see the point in this. Even Christians in Arabic-speaking countries
use the word "Allah" for God.
All the three abrahamic religions worship the same god, but the word for "God" differs from country to country.
It is not true that the Germans worship a god they call "Gott".
Religion was the first Government so how in the world can Government be any better!? It isn't ! Humans r the only animal that establishes control over it's own with such force yet this control is part of nature in the behavior of many NOT ALL animals. Freedom is not in government the truth is no one realy wants what it takes to have freedom. It would mean u actualy would be reponsible for doing everything like our ancestors did. That's fine with me, I'm not lazy. I don't need to be served ! I don't need someone to die for me ! & Allah IS NOT God - it is Arabic for Elohim & of course Christians r going to use Allah for the smae God, The use of the word is part of their culture & it is suppose to be the smae God (Elohim). It's the use of the word alone that is incorrect in the many of it's translations. Godess is part of that Diety. In actuality it never should have been translated. God is an in-complet translation for Elohim.
Take the allah bullshit off as well………..WTF……………One is as bad as the other.
How about in Dog we trust, since I trust my dog and no god that allows all of the shit that the allah assholes force on others. The way they treat women is a disgrace to the world for letting it happen for centuries. DOwn with religion of all kind.
drfoxdove
Hey I thought of that too! Dog's r more trust worthy! Sometimes I wonder that maybe that's how someone came up with that name for the creater or creative power. Because they had the idea the creater was as awesome as their dog! But this devil (evil) keeps this God (masculine power) from expressing his full love always pissing him off. People live their lives everyday looking at God thru the centuries as something divine. When in fact his phsychological makeup is tyranical. & so life is tyranical, all over the place, a mess! Life is as the Bible says it is & the brains who reads it hears it sees it - outplays it. The brain is designed by the very force that made religion. God is power & that power needs to be put on check or tapped into & changed, life can't stagnate as it has been - We r beautiful when we r born, absolutly divine. Sadly things change as we grow. So my votes in writing God bkwards but adding an important ingredient! MY DOG because I can't trust someone elses!!! My Dog I Trust….i don't have one by the way, if I did this is how i feel
P.S. & oh yes Islamic men treat women as tyranical as the masculine force has been reflected to them from adults around them. I have met many Islamic men who r very good to their wives because there is an emfasis on respect & love. My Islamic friends tell me the Quran does not say to hit & kill women & children. The fact is the human brain is design to outplay itself as it has been according to what it's told, seen, feels, read. No human ever in history follows the letter of their religion with it's full understading. Life's cruelty is so. The brain is a computer with feelings & the LIfeforce made it. It's a Bitch & Bitchess…gota have the feminin in there. & it owes it's creations a big Fat oppology! So hey yeah I sure as hell don't feel for God we Trust let alone Allah ew yuk religion suckes!
I prefer to cross out "In God We Trust" and write "Mind Your Business". That was one of the first mottoes on American currency (look up the "Fugio Cent" on Wikipedia), long before anyone was foolish enough to put anything having to do with God on our currency.
Interestingly, for those who say the country was founded based on religion, God was never mentioned on currency until the Civil War (people have always had an annoying tendency to invoke God during wars). This was years after all of the original founding fathers had died, and I can't imagine they would have approved.
Amazing Steve, "Mind Your buisness" is perfect! $ is how one get's their buisness done & don't we all need to be reminded of that when deciding how to spend it? A good thing for the young generation to see every time they use $. If you start a petition Steve I'd sign it ! Several times!! =) please someone propose a replacement to "God We Trust"! Quickly! Our Minds & Hearts depend on it! I am going to for sure remember "Mind Your Buisness"! My family has to mind their buisness beter than they have. & I don't mean sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. I mean literaly we r lousy in saving! Yes, I like "Mind Your Buisness"! The thing is the mythological stuff on the bill cordinates better visualy with the present statement, that' what it's really all about. All this Freemason stuff & the mythology's obligation to life, 33 degrees, The Universe. That's why we have what we have on the Dollar Bill. cont'd…..
"Mind Your Buisness" just doesn't cordinate with the intent & artistic expression of the artists wotks on this Dollar Bill ! The Words don't parallel the work done & expressed on this establishments money. Ah ha! I never realised this. Oh darn it! We're not going to get rid of these words! We're stuck for life! Artists of the $ bill won't allow it! Don't mess with an Artist's Art/Work! They'll fight you all the way! =( Mind Your Buisness is a reallly good one!
I THINK IT'S CRAZY YOU CAN SCAN THE DOLLAR SO CLEARLY…. I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF "VOID" THAT SHOWED UP WHEN YOU SCANNED IT!!!!
TheREALGodofChaos / August 13th, 2010, 12:56 am / #55
The Nazi's were atheist. Hitler's perfect society was an atheist, white society. Now days christian racist groups (KKK namely) believe that only white people deserve to go to Heaven and are christian.
Everyone is corrupt, as it's human nature to want to be the head of the food chain. We're all fucked up, christianity and atheism. Best way to deal with it? We all kill ourselves. Logical way to deal with it? Well, we get over difference and hate and just live in a society ignoring ignorance and idiocracy of the people in which cause the world to be the way it is until they die off.
Allah is NOT God…Allah is a SEXLESS DEiTY….SEX IS A NUMBER….ALLAH COMES FROM THE YUDDEU'S (Jews) LANGUAGE FOR THEIR CREATOR - ELOHIM - ELO - ALLAH…GOD IS FROM THE WORD GOOD…..Allah is Arabic for Ellohim….America IS a facist Government & society at it's own level - all kinds of fascism in history, America is one of them, look up the definition…..& NO WAY is Democracy a civil & fair processes of living & having one's voice heard, absolutly not…..everything in life is different because of the degrees but still the same wrong ingredient, adding more sugar/honey/artificial sweetner doesn't make it NOT there or that the bad trait isn't there….America is facist & having the seductive manipulative iINGREDIENTS in it's existance makes it blindly accepted…God as Creater(or) is mentioned in The Constitution - Constituton just means what constituts in this humanity's way of living that's all….& it isn't being followed…so "God" is in T.C, so it's a FORM OF THEOCRACY…..
ACTUALLY IT'S BEST EVERYONE STOP COMMITING CHILD ABUSE IN THE 1ST DEGREE BY NOT HAVING CHILDREN - TIHS PLACE IS INAPPROPRIET FOR KIDS & THAT SHOULD SOLVE A LRGE DEGREE OF EVERYONE'S BITCHING-CHILDREN R ALWAYS RELIGION'S REASON FOR COMPLANING & INTERFERRING……TOTALY AGREE ABOUT ATHIESM & THEISM (CHRISTIANITY) NO DIFFERENCE, STILL ENDS UP UNFAIR EITHER WAY WE GO…IT'S NATURE THAT'S THE PROBLEM NOT US OR THE ANIMALS…WE ALL R BEHAVING AS WE WERE MADE TO….SADLY IT'S THE TRUTH….WHEN ONE'S INDIVIDUAL NATURE CHANGES THAT'S NATURE TAKING IT'S EVOLVING ACTION IN THAT PERSON, ANIMAL etc & SO GOES THE STORY IN WHAT'S IN CONTROL "GOD" "MOTHER NATURE" THE GREAT SPIRIT" etc…LANGUAGE IS EXPRESSIONISM…THAT'S HOW LANGUAGE WKS….SEX IS A #…COUPLE IS NOT MATES IT'S PAIRS…CANCER IS GREEK FOR CRAB NOT A DISEASE THAT CAN KILL U….HIGH 5 TO U The REALGodofChaos - NO NEED TO KILL OURSELVES THOUGH JUST STOP COMMITING CHILD ABUSE IN THE 1ST DEGREE IN HAVING THEM IN AN INAPPROPRIATE WORLD BUT PLSE DON'T ABORT ALL LIFE FEELS…
P.S. Elohim is God & Godess / lightness n darkness / light n darkness / male n female / god n goddess / God n Goddess / Good n Goodness…. man inside woman…light shining in space…light in darkness…..etc etc so on & so forth….fun hey?…huh six, sex, 6 & 9 sex n nine 6 n 9 sitxy nine…(=….God We Trust is a Theocracy & Facist
Alright you ignorant atheists… if there is no god, then HOW DOES THE SUN KEEP ORBITING THE EARTH? BAM!
You see people, that's how you deal with atheist skum. With LOGIC! Hit that bullseye and the rest of the dominoes will come down like a house of cards… CHECKMATE!
Alright you ignorant atheists… if there is no god, then HOW DOES THE SUN KEEP ORBITING THE EARTH? BAM!
You see people, that's how you deal with atheist skum. With LOGIC! Hit that bullseye and the rest of the dominoes will come down like a house of cards… CHECKMATE!
It is NOT illegal to deface US currency… unless there is "intent to defraud." If you draw two zeroes after the ONE on a $1 bill with the intent of passing it as a $100 bill, you are intending to defraud (and if someone is idiotic enough to accept it as a $100 bill, you successfully defrauded that idiot). If you make President Washington's eyes look crossed for the sake of comic art, there is no intent to defraud, thus no crime.
Yes we have those same laws in the U.S., but nobody enforces them and nobody cares. There is even a website that openly admits to putting text on bills and they've been around for years. The fact is that you can't ever figure out who "defaced" the currency, unless they walk up to an enforcement officer (one who gave a damn), and did it in front of them. The website is below. http://www.wheresgeorge.com/
Actually, this is exactly the kind of thing that's worth going to jail for. Not for the act itself, but for the ideology it represents. I would definitely go to jail if it brought attention to the fact that the subtle establishment of religion is all around us.
Here are some interesting anti-money groups I've come to find out about. Still investigating. Expecting some feed bk from u Sean/ Black Sun, what u know about them? I don't expect u'd be in favor being where u are in ur view points on life and reality otherwise u would have already talked about them…
Lookin fwd to them.
They can be found on fb (facebook) aswell.
The Zeitgeist Movement &
Money Revolution- Equal Money from Birth to Death - Value Life!!
Comments (67 comments)
loveit / March 27th, 2008, 7:35 pm / #1
I want one too!
Leana Yukari / March 27th, 2008, 11:06 pm / #2
If I had this stamp, I think I would forget about life for a few days and just wander around asking people if i could stamp their money.
Well maybe not to that extreme but I love it!!
Oz Atheist / March 27th, 2008, 11:39 pm / #3
at a stamp shop I’d guess? You can get stamps made with whatever you want on them.
I think this is funny and clever; however, is defacing currency a crime in America? Here in Australia it is:
It’s a good idea, but not worth going to gaol/jail for.
BlackSun / March 27th, 2008, 11:54 pm / #4
Oz Atheist,
Thanks–yeah I figured I could have it custom made. I just wondered if someone was selling them on the web that I hadn’t heard about.
As far as defacing currency? Yes it’s technically a crime, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone being arrested for it. After all, unless they saw you stamping the bills, there would be no proof that the defacing didn’t come from someone else.
After all, putting “god” on the money is a constitutional violation in the first place.
Tony KW / March 28th, 2008, 5:46 am / #5
In about 1980 at a conference in Brighton, UK for GLBT politics we asked everyone to have their currency stamped with a pink triangle and to use cash instead of credit cards.
By the end of the long weekend almost 90% of the currency in town had been stamped.
That made people think.
It can be a very powerful tool to remind people of the financial aspects of your politics.
Misha Vargas / March 28th, 2008, 10:42 am / #6
It’s been said — but I won’t swear — that “defacing” requires doing more than just making little marks on a bill; that it requires making the bill un-reissuable (perhaps by covering or removing the bill’s number) . This seems to be correct, when I read the U.S. Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 17, Section 333.
(Do it. C’mon. No one cares. You’ll totally get away with it.)
Alex / March 28th, 2008, 4:26 pm / #7
Unfortunately, I doubt the people who really need to get informed on this issue won’t get past the ‘in Allah’ line before deciding that whoever did it is a terrorist Muslim.
Generally, I go after this issue from a historical perspective, pointing out that the phrase wasn’t on our money previously and claiming that I want a return to the way it used to be. 100% true, and it doesn’t take an angle of attack that will be dismissed without thinking.
With a few exceptions, history is a big thing to conservatives, who form the big speedbump here, and convincing them that if it was good enough for our founding fathers is at least somewhat successful. Even if they’re too uninformed to know our founding fathers weren’t anywhere close to their brand of religiousity.
Liquid Egg Product / March 28th, 2008, 5:50 pm / #8
Muslims who speak English use “God” too, though…maybe go with Xenu…
Michael Morris / March 28th, 2008, 9:26 pm / #9
Perfect - just perfect. God is not Great. I am just finishing Hitchens book and it is wonderful. I haven’t felt this good since speed queens were washers. You know - way back in the olden days when Hillary was a Marine door gunner in Viet Nam?
No - seriously religion poisons everything.
vjack / March 30th, 2008, 6:27 am / #10
With my luck, I wouldn’t be able to get any of the Christian extremists in the area to accept my bills after that!
Christ Davis / March 31st, 2008, 2:28 pm / #11
I carry a sharpie at all times. If I can’t think of a reasonably clever edit I just run a thick line through the whole god/trust bit. It goes over big in AA meetings!
Aaron Kinney / April 3rd, 2008, 9:54 am / #12
Holy shit I need that stamp too!
kent / April 3rd, 2008, 1:53 pm / #13
In god we trust on the money never bothered me. I always took it to mean that we Americans worship money. Those bills we trust.
Black Sun Journal » Blame Canada / April 3rd, 2008, 2:43 pm / #14
[...] After posting about keeping all gods off money (previous article), I was starting to wonder what would be on the ideal currency. I was thinking it should be fun, pleasing to the eye, and totally offensive to both modern prudes and medievally inclined spirit-worshipers. Then I got these gorgeous designs forwarded in an email. [...]
CLSFD / April 29th, 2008, 11:27 am / #15
Not trying to be hugely offensive, but there is a reason that Allah works much better than Xenu. Allah is like the rival football team for Christians. Christians don’t really feel threatened by Xenu or Zeus. Or even Buddha. But Allah, now there is a name that stirs up some feelings in most warm blooded Americans that can only be compared to seeing your worst enemy get a promotion.
By the way, the picture rocked.
jake / April 29th, 2008, 11:28 am / #16
@Liquid Egg Product
Muslims who speak English and say “God” do it because God and Allah are one in the same.
Their Allah who promises them 72 virgins and our God who promises them eternal salvation is the same person.
jon / April 29th, 2008, 12:42 pm / #17
Im atheist and it never bothered me.
Anti-theist / April 29th, 2008, 1:01 pm / #18
Another thing you can do, is scratch the T of Trust off the bill, so it says “IN GOD WE RUST”
Rexerex / April 29th, 2008, 4:26 pm / #19
Misha Vargas seems to be right.
As an example of leaglly stamping dollars check out this site and their FAQ.
wheresgeorge.com
Free Software / April 29th, 2008, 5:25 pm / #20
Loads a Money!
Justin / April 29th, 2008, 5:39 pm / #21
So, instead of this, I’ve been crossing out “God” on all my bills and writing “humanity” or “humankind”. Seems a more optimistic (and realistic) thing to give your trust.
MikedaSnipe / April 29th, 2008, 7:24 pm / #22
The “In god we trust” slogan was added to bills to keep other nations from calling the US secular and godless. Its a meaningless token, the worst thats come from it is idiots using it as “lolol 100% proof” that the US is for christians. Shouldn’t we be fighting other battles and let the religious folk have this little phrase? It makes them happy.
terry kelley / April 29th, 2008, 9:13 pm / #23
It seems to me that in FASCISM we trust would be more appropriate !
we do live in a fascist society, or is it a fascist theocracy i keep forgetting
LONG LIVE the CORPORATE OVERLORDS.
Jay / April 30th, 2008, 4:37 am / #24
It’s a nice thought, misguided as it is. Allah and God are one in the same, it is simply two names for the same being. God is our English word and Allah is Islamic. Why do most believe that an acknowledgment of religion is the same as establishing a church? The point is clear, religion should not be the basis of government, that’s a good point.
Steve / April 30th, 2008, 9:42 am / #25
Perhaps we should go with “All Glory to the Hypnotoad!”
ismgr / May 4th, 2008, 10:36 am / #26
It needs to come off. The sooner, the better. Religion needs to be separated from government as much as possible. The sooner, the better. I’m in favor of anything that wakes people up. _________, __________.
GunterM / July 6th, 2008, 1:43 pm / #27
The crusades : God wants it !
The Nazis : Gott mitt uns!
The USA : In God we trust1
It is true, history repeats itself….
Sean / July 12th, 2008, 11:04 pm / #28
Jay, islamic isn’t a language… Allah is Arabic for God. Terry: America is nowhere near a fascist theocracy. Compare modern America to Nazi Germany. Everything is different.
Dan / August 16th, 2008, 6:33 pm / #29
Defacing money in the US is not a crime unless the intent to fradulent. Meaning, altering money to raise the face value
from http://www.lawforkids.org
United States currency and coinage are governed by federal law through the U.S. Treasury Department. Generally, it is illegal to fraudulently deface, mutilate, impair, diminish, falsify, scales or lightens any coins minted or “coined” in the United States or any foreign coins which are by law made current or are in use or circulation as money within the U.S. (18 U.S.C. 331)
It is also a crime to fraudulently possess, pass, publish, sell or attempt to possess, pass, publish, sell or bring into the U.S. any such coin with knowledge that the coin has been altered, mutilated, defaced, etc. (18 U.S.C. 331)
Defacing currency with the intent to alter the bill to gain a benefit is illegal. If someone alters a written instrument (such as a check) without permission and with the intent to gain a benefit, then it is called forgery, which is a crime. If one tried to alter a cash bill (like changing a $5 bill to a $20 bill) for the purpose of presenting the altered bill to gain a benefit, then that could be considered a forgery. Forgery of United States Currency in this manner is called counterfeiting and carries with it very stiff penalties.
Amen A. Sigala / August 17th, 2008, 12:29 am / #30
No, GOD is a HE - ALLAH is suppose to be a sexless deity , not to be comprehendable to our human minds to understand what thats suppose to mean, so my Muslim friends tell me - psychologicly in characteristics they are NOT THE SAME - the Christian/Judeo God doesn’t promote multiple wives, anymore that is - and the history of the word God is not a correct translation to the pluralisaton of the word it replaced which is ELOHIM - it’s found in Genises the statement We were created in their image, THOSE OF U WHO WILL BE WRITING IN THAT IT’S SUPPOSE TO BE THE TRINITY DON’T WAIST MY TIME NOTHINGS FEMALE IN THE TRINITY!!!
AND this country is only what it is because those who faught n died for TRUTH, made it free-er!!Other wise it could have fallen in the hands of the facists! Hi fives to Malcom X and Martin L. King, despite their religous following, they cared!!! They loved!!
These United States continue to use the Bible in court rooms, that is in abosolute violation in favoring a organised religion, a multifarious one!!!
So atheist’s SHOULD BE BOTHERED that the word God and the Bible continue to be found in use in this govermental establishment!!!
Nazis went for the Jews, then the Poleish, then Christians….WE THE PEOPLE IN ORDER TO FORM A MORE PERFECT UNION is establishing that balance/compromise in reflect of those words and NOT FAVORING ANY ONE RELIGION so we of various beleifs can BE RESPECTED! ! !
VIOLATIONS OF THE CONSTiTUTION SHOULD NEVER BE TOLERATED!!
I DON’T BELIEVE THE TRUE FREEMASONS WHO SIGNED AND FOUGHT FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD STAND BY NOT BOTHERED BY ALL THESE VIOLATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen ; .)
My name challenges christian theology for being connected to the polyheism in Egyption Mythology-I was named after the God of life not The Amen of the True n Holy Bk!!!!!!!! __
NOT A TRUE N HOLY BK BUT A MANIPULISED FORCE FOR POLITICAL REASONS THRU HISTORY!!
NO ONE SHOULD TOLERATE SUCH LIES - EVER !!!
Amen A. Sigala / August 17th, 2008, 12:38 am / #31
And COOL AWESOME AND PERFECT COINCIDENTAL FIND, this $BILL, finding it’s way to a perfect useful destiny!!
Still have it?
IN LOVE I TRUST
BUT if they insist on keeping God on the $ bill scratching out the T is good too ;o)
Any one got the time to do a couple hundred thousand?
I’d love to see the media response if it was done!!!
Someone would definatly react n call the local news station!!!
Ty / September 16th, 2008, 10:06 pm / #32
Careful what you post online, im not sure exactly what the laws are but i would distort this image somewhat if i were you just cause this may get you in trouble with counterfeiting.
Blackbird / October 31st, 2008, 9:05 am / #33
Change it to “the flying spaggehti monster” or the “invisible pink unicorn”, this shows immediately that it was an atheist who did it.
plus, you’ll almost certainly get approaval from the religion to do so. 
Alex / November 8th, 2008, 9:19 pm / #34
ha, that’s awesome.
oh, and actually, it’s not illegal to do that, I don’t think so. I actually looked it up, and I’m pretty sure it’s only illegal to defile a bill in a way that won’t let you see any valuable iinformation… so I’m saying you can cross out george washington’s eyes, but you can’t cross out te serial number or the signature on the bill. I’m pretty sure.
Jackie / November 9th, 2008, 10:24 am / #35
I completely agree with keeping God off money but the real reason I am replying to this post is because I’m not sure if you’re aware that it is totally illegal to scan or make any copies of U.S. money. I’m not being mean I’m just saying please be careful.
Reverend Davidius / November 10th, 2008, 2:03 am / #36
In regards to the legality questions up top, it is only a crime in America if it is done with fraudulent intent.
Scelza / November 10th, 2008, 10:25 pm / #37
I just scribble out “God” from all of my bills with a pen
Saves me trying to find a stamp.
Gets my point across.
A cashier at a supermarket took a $20 of mine and saw the black ink on the back of my bill and stared at it for a second and just grimaced at it. She didn’t say anything, but I wish she asked me if I did it. I’d have totally laughed and said yes, and then asked if I could scribble all the God’s off of the bills in her drawer.
I love irritating the religious.
AmenASh&f / November 11th, 2008, 2:33 am / #38
Scelza, I roared laughing! I too like doing test’s like this! Seeing people or even animals reactions are priceless & educational. I learn so much from people’s reactions.
A friend of mine farted at his friend’s dog, ok?! and he said the dog reacted as if saying “What was that for?!” My friend is in his early 30’s & goofy with his sense of humor.
P.S. Sean hope my &, in my name is ok? I do want readers to know who Happy&Free was. Didn’t intensionally violate any rules. Also, didn’t find any spell chk on top of the comment box.
Thk u.
A us citizen / November 25th, 2008, 3:58 pm / #39
Hi i am a American who doesn’t believe in God… I think I will come here and complain about the “in god we trust” on the bill… Really people do you honestly think that whining or defacing bills or anything of the such is gonna change anything. If you do not believe in a “God” then that is your choice, but America has chosen to put “in god we trust” on our money. Stop living life worrying about little pointless things that makes no difference when there are tons of way bigger problems in this world. Thank you for your time.
BlackSun / November 25th, 2008, 4:14 pm / #40
A Us Citizen,
Saying something is “pointless” is just another way to sidestep the issue. A way of expressing disagreement without having to deal with the actual question. The formal description of this fallacy would fall under “taboos” or “There is no alternative”
Share Vouchers / May 4th, 2009, 1:15 am / #41
I share vouchers and posts about this sort of thing on my other social networking sites. Thanks to the poster
AmenASHandF / May 5th, 2009, 5:01 pm / #42
Those of us commenting aren't worring, we are commenting how we feel about seeing this on our $ bill on a daily bases. That's all folks. And yes there are more serious things going on out there that we should be paying more attention too. Absolutly and totaly agree!!!! So don't come back here wasting your time, go out there and take care of all those things that are more important!! Okay? Okay. Bye Bye
Anders Svenneby / October 21st, 2009, 9:10 pm / #43
"Allah" is just the Arabic word for "God", so I don't see the point in this. Even Christians in Arabic-speaking countries
use the word "Allah" for God.
All the three abrahamic religions worship the same god, but the word for "God" differs from country to country.
It is not true that the Germans worship a god they call "Gott".
bobby / October 22nd, 2009, 12:24 am / #44
its only illegal to deface money in attempt to defraud ,,
the art on the bills are actually public domain we can do what ever we want to it ,
you just cant do something like try to make a 1 dollar bill look like a 20, thats the attempt to defraud stuff comes from
AmenASHandFree / October 22nd, 2009, 10:01 am / #45
Religion was the first Government so how in the world can Government be any better!? It isn't ! Humans r the only animal that establishes control over it's own with such force yet this control is part of nature in the behavior of many NOT ALL animals. Freedom is not in government the truth is no one realy wants what it takes to have freedom. It would mean u actualy would be reponsible for doing everything like our ancestors did. That's fine with me, I'm not lazy. I don't need to be served ! I don't need someone to die for me ! & Allah IS NOT God - it is Arabic for Elohim & of course Christians r going to use Allah for the smae God, The use of the word is part of their culture & it is suppose to be the smae God (Elohim). It's the use of the word alone that is incorrect in the many of it's translations. Godess is part of that Diety. In actuality it never should have been translated. God is an in-complet translation for Elohim.
Hamish / October 22nd, 2009, 1:05 pm / #46
How on earth are you going to catch someone doing it though? It's VERY Hard to govern.
drfoxdove / October 23rd, 2009, 2:55 am / #47
Take the allah bullshit off as well………..WTF……………One is as bad as the other.
How about in Dog we trust, since I trust my dog and no god that allows all of the shit that the allah assholes force on others. The way they treat women is a disgrace to the world for letting it happen for centuries. DOwn with religion of all kind.
AmenASHandFree / October 27th, 2009, 6:03 pm / #48
drfoxdove
Hey I thought of that too! Dog's r more trust worthy! Sometimes I wonder that maybe that's how someone came up with that name for the creater or creative power. Because they had the idea the creater was as awesome as their dog! But this devil (evil) keeps this God (masculine power) from expressing his full love always pissing him off. People live their lives everyday looking at God thru the centuries as something divine. When in fact his phsychological makeup is tyranical. & so life is tyranical, all over the place, a mess! Life is as the Bible says it is & the brains who reads it hears it sees it - outplays it. The brain is designed by the very force that made religion. God is power & that power needs to be put on check or tapped into & changed, life can't stagnate as it has been - We r beautiful when we r born, absolutly divine. Sadly things change as we grow. So my votes in writing God bkwards but adding an important ingredient! MY DOG because I can't trust someone elses!!! My Dog I Trust….i don't have one by the way, if I did this is how i feel
AmenASHandFree / October 27th, 2009, 6:30 pm / #49
P.S. & oh yes Islamic men treat women as tyranical as the masculine force has been reflected to them from adults around them. I have met many Islamic men who r very good to their wives because there is an emfasis on respect & love. My Islamic friends tell me the Quran does not say to hit & kill women & children. The fact is the human brain is design to outplay itself as it has been according to what it's told, seen, feels, read. No human ever in history follows the letter of their religion with it's full understading. Life's cruelty is so. The brain is a computer with feelings & the LIfeforce made it. It's a Bitch & Bitchess…gota have the feminin in there. & it owes it's creations a big Fat oppology! So hey yeah I sure as hell don't feel for God we Trust let alone Allah ew yuk religion suckes!
Amazing Steve / November 11th, 2009, 3:20 am / #50
I prefer to cross out "In God We Trust" and write "Mind Your Business". That was one of the first mottoes on American currency (look up the "Fugio Cent" on Wikipedia), long before anyone was foolish enough to put anything having to do with God on our currency.
Interestingly, for those who say the country was founded based on religion, God was never mentioned on currency until the Civil War (people have always had an annoying tendency to invoke God during wars). This was years after all of the original founding fathers had died, and I can't imagine they would have approved.
AmenASHandFree / November 11th, 2009, 11:19 am / #51
Amazing Steve, "Mind Your buisness" is perfect! $ is how one get's their buisness done & don't we all need to be reminded of that when deciding how to spend it? A good thing for the young generation to see every time they use $. If you start a petition Steve I'd sign it ! Several times!! =) please someone propose a replacement to "God We Trust"! Quickly! Our Minds & Hearts depend on it! I am going to for sure remember "Mind Your Buisness"! My family has to mind their buisness beter than they have. & I don't mean sticking our nose where it doesn't belong. I mean literaly we r lousy in saving! Yes, I like "Mind Your Buisness"! The thing is the mythological stuff on the bill cordinates better visualy with the present statement, that' what it's really all about. All this Freemason stuff & the mythology's obligation to life, 33 degrees, The Universe. That's why we have what we have on the Dollar Bill. cont'd…..
AmenASHandFree / November 11th, 2009, 11:29 am / #52
"Mind Your Buisness" just doesn't cordinate with the intent & artistic expression of the artists wotks on this Dollar Bill ! The Words don't parallel the work done & expressed on this establishments money. Ah ha! I never realised this. Oh darn it! We're not going to get rid of these words! We're stuck for life! Artists of the $ bill won't allow it! Don't mess with an Artist's Art/Work! They'll fight you all the way! =( Mind Your Buisness is a reallly good one!
PYG / November 12th, 2009, 2:55 pm / #53
I blank out the t in trust so it says in god we rust
JEN / November 13th, 2009, 9:48 pm / #54
I THINK IT'S CRAZY YOU CAN SCAN THE DOLLAR SO CLEARLY…. I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF "VOID" THAT SHOWED UP WHEN YOU SCANNED IT!!!!
TheREALGodofChaos / August 13th, 2010, 12:56 am / #55
The Nazi's were atheist. Hitler's perfect society was an atheist, white society. Now days christian racist groups (KKK namely) believe that only white people deserve to go to Heaven and are christian.
Everyone is corrupt, as it's human nature to want to be the head of the food chain. We're all fucked up, christianity and atheism. Best way to deal with it? We all kill ourselves. Logical way to deal with it? Well, we get over difference and hate and just live in a society ignoring ignorance and idiocracy of the people in which cause the world to be the way it is until they die off.
AmenASHandF / August 14th, 2010, 12:18 am / #56
Allah is NOT God…Allah is a SEXLESS DEiTY….SEX IS A NUMBER….ALLAH COMES FROM THE YUDDEU'S (Jews) LANGUAGE FOR THEIR CREATOR - ELOHIM - ELO - ALLAH…GOD IS FROM THE WORD GOOD…..Allah is Arabic for Ellohim….America IS a facist Government & society at it's own level - all kinds of fascism in history, America is one of them, look up the definition…..& NO WAY is Democracy a civil & fair processes of living & having one's voice heard, absolutly not…..everything in life is different because of the degrees but still the same wrong ingredient, adding more sugar/honey/artificial sweetner doesn't make it NOT there or that the bad trait isn't there….America is facist & having the seductive manipulative iINGREDIENTS in it's existance makes it blindly accepted…God as Creater(or) is mentioned in The Constitution - Constituton just means what constituts in this humanity's way of living that's all….& it isn't being followed…so "God" is in T.C, so it's a FORM OF THEOCRACY…..
AmenASHandF / August 14th, 2010, 12:38 am / #57
ACTUALLY IT'S BEST EVERYONE STOP COMMITING CHILD ABUSE IN THE 1ST DEGREE BY NOT HAVING CHILDREN - TIHS PLACE IS INAPPROPRIET FOR KIDS & THAT SHOULD SOLVE A LRGE DEGREE OF EVERYONE'S BITCHING-CHILDREN R ALWAYS RELIGION'S REASON FOR COMPLANING & INTERFERRING……TOTALY AGREE ABOUT ATHIESM & THEISM (CHRISTIANITY) NO DIFFERENCE, STILL ENDS UP UNFAIR EITHER WAY WE GO…IT'S NATURE THAT'S THE PROBLEM NOT US OR THE ANIMALS…WE ALL R BEHAVING AS WE WERE MADE TO….SADLY IT'S THE TRUTH….WHEN ONE'S INDIVIDUAL NATURE CHANGES THAT'S NATURE TAKING IT'S EVOLVING ACTION IN THAT PERSON, ANIMAL etc & SO GOES THE STORY IN WHAT'S IN CONTROL "GOD" "MOTHER NATURE" THE GREAT SPIRIT" etc…LANGUAGE IS EXPRESSIONISM…THAT'S HOW LANGUAGE WKS….SEX IS A #…COUPLE IS NOT MATES IT'S PAIRS…CANCER IS GREEK FOR CRAB NOT A DISEASE THAT CAN KILL U….HIGH 5 TO U The REALGodofChaos - NO NEED TO KILL OURSELVES THOUGH JUST STOP COMMITING CHILD ABUSE IN THE 1ST DEGREE IN HAVING THEM IN AN INAPPROPRIATE WORLD BUT PLSE DON'T ABORT ALL LIFE FEELS…
AmenASHandF / August 14th, 2010, 12:51 am / #58
P.S. Elohim is God & Godess / lightness n darkness / light n darkness / male n female / god n goddess / God n Goddess / Good n Goodness…. man inside woman…light shining in space…light in darkness…..etc etc so on & so forth….fun hey?…huh six, sex, 6 & 9 sex n nine 6 n 9 sitxy nine…(=….God We Trust is a Theocracy & Facist
Brian / September 17th, 2010, 11:11 pm / #59
Alright you ignorant atheists… if there is no god, then HOW DOES THE SUN KEEP ORBITING THE EARTH? BAM!
You see people, that's how you deal with atheist skum. With LOGIC! Hit that bullseye and the rest of the dominoes will come down like a house of cards… CHECKMATE!
And on that note…
Dunt dun duuh DAAAAHHHH!
!!!!!!!!!MY ATHEIST STORE!!!!!!!!!
<a href="http://www.zazzle.com/briman232*">Aristotle's Muse
This is my store. Maybe wearing an atheist T-shirt won't change the world, but enough of them just might.
Brian / September 17th, 2010, 11:11 pm / #60
Alright you ignorant atheists… if there is no god, then HOW DOES THE SUN KEEP ORBITING THE EARTH? BAM!
You see people, that's how you deal with atheist skum. With LOGIC! Hit that bullseye and the rest of the dominoes will come down like a house of cards… CHECKMATE!
And on that note…
Dunt dun duuh DAAAAHHHH!
!!!!!!!!!MY ATHEIST STORE!!!!!!!!!
http://www.zazzle.com/briman232*
This is my store. Maybe wearing an atheist T-shirt won't change the world, but enough of them just might.
Nutshell / October 1st, 2010, 2:12 am / #61
It is NOT illegal to deface US currency… unless there is "intent to defraud." If you draw two zeroes after the ONE on a $1 bill with the intent of passing it as a $100 bill, you are intending to defraud (and if someone is idiotic enough to accept it as a $100 bill, you successfully defrauded that idiot). If you make President Washington's eyes look crossed for the sake of comic art, there is no intent to defraud, thus no crime.
vcepesh / January 4th, 2011, 1:37 pm / #62
Finally a good use for my Trodat Printy self-inking stamp:
http://www.trodat.net/010+Company/_News/_en-US/20...
Kris / June 9th, 2011, 6:47 pm / #63
Yes we have those same laws in the U.S., but nobody enforces them and nobody cares. There is even a website that openly admits to putting text on bills and they've been around for years. The fact is that you can't ever figure out who "defaced" the currency, unless they walk up to an enforcement officer (one who gave a damn), and did it in front of them. The website is below.
http://www.wheresgeorge.com/
KevInMA / June 24th, 2011, 11:42 am / #64
Actually, this is exactly the kind of thing that's worth going to jail for. Not for the act itself, but for the ideology it represents. I would definitely go to jail if it brought attention to the fact that the subtle establishment of religion is all around us.
AmenASHandFree / June 24th, 2011, 9:38 pm / #65
then ur AWESOME!…thQ for being that way KevInMA \m/ <3 \ / Truth Rules!
AmenASHandF / July 1st, 2011, 2:13 am / #66
Here are some interesting anti-money groups I've come to find out about. Still investigating. Expecting some feed bk from u Sean/ Black Sun, what u know about them? I don't expect u'd be in favor being where u are in ur view points on life and reality otherwise u would have already talked about them…
Lookin fwd to them.
They can be found on fb (facebook) aswell.
The Zeitgeist Movement &
Money Revolution- Equal Money from Birth to Death - Value Life!!
Honstaur / October 27th, 2011, 3:55 am / #67
Luckily, there are no religious slogans (that I know of) on Australian currency so that's highly unlikely.
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